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Warp wrote:
> I don't think that's true. Maybe it was true 50 years ago, but nowadays
> IQ tests are specifically designed to be detached of all cultural backgrounds.
One example I remember was something like "You've lost your ball in a
circular field. How can you more efficiently look for it." If you grew up
in a rain forest, with neither balls nor fields, this is a difficult
question to consider.
The IQ tests I had in grade school (maybe 35-40 years ago) definitely had
culture components. Pictures from a cartoon that had to be put in the right
order, involving leaving the house, seeing it's raining, going back for the
umbrella, missing the train because of that, etc. Granted, this wasn't
*supposed* to be applicable to cultures outside where I went to grade
school; I'm pretty sure that even disadvantaged black children knew what
umbrellas were, for example.
> all people have had the exact same education for quite many decades.
Not here. People from poor neighborhoods with crappy schools and overworked
teachers get worse education than those from rich neighborhoods with
expensive lab equipment and books and plenty of teachers per pupil.
Of course, the question is how many generations do you go before you decide
that any residual results of discrimination are no longer significant?
Obviously, the children of newly freed slaves are going to be at a
disadvantage compared to the children of previous rich slaveholders - their
parents don't know as much, don't speak gramatically, can't answer questions
about science, etc. The children of uneducated parents are going to be less
educated than the children of educated parents.
Honestly, it hasn't been that long since blacks here got legally equal rights.
> I have hard time thinking of a question in a fireman test which a white
> citizen of the US is able to answer due to his culture but a black citizen
> of the US isn't, especially if both have gone to the same schools.
Yeah. Actually, I think this was a test for promotion to some
leadership/management position. It wasn't a test about fighting fires, but
about running a fire fighting company. So I imagine there could be
something on it. It's just hard to believe there's anything on it that
would make *all* 26 black applicants fail the test.
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Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
Forget "focus follows mouse." When do
I get "focus follows gaze"?
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